In this season two opener of the PolySoCal Podcast, Alonzo Banx sits down with Carolyn Eagle, founder of Betty’s Toy Box and a certified sex educator, for a conversation about adult pleasure, sex education, body knowledge, and how the sex toy industry has changed. Carolyn shares how her background in publishing, sexual politics, women’s history, and feminism led her to build an online shop that felt more approachable, less tacky, and less shame-based than the adult stores she saw around her. The conversation moves through toy safety, silicone, aging bodies, menopause, male toys, AI-driven sex tech, censorship, and how couples can bring toys into the bedroom without fear or insecurity. More than a product conversation, this episode is about how little most adults were taught about their bodies, and how shame-free education can make pleasure, communication, and exploration feel normal.
Viola Media Inc. (Parent company): https://viola-media.com/
Betty’s Toy Box (U.S. store): https://www.bettystoybox.com/
Naughty North (Canadian store): https://naughtynorth.ca/
The Pleasure Curve (Curated body-safe toys for curves): https://pleasurecurve.com/
PolySoCa – E053 – An interview with Carolyn Eagle
Alonzo banx: [00:00:00] Welcome back to Poly SoCal. I am still Alonzo Banks, and in house tonight we have one person, just one, but it’s an amazing person. Carolyn Eagle, and you know what? I’m gonna let her tell you who she is because I’m trying to go through her bio and there’s just a bit much there. So Carolyn, welcome
Carolyn: Thank you. Thank you for having me. This is very exciting. I’m really excited to talk to you. It’s gonna be a lot of fun
Alonzo banx: Okay, so I’m looking at your bio certified sex educator. You were in the journal, in Canadian publishing for a while, and then you built a reputation on sexual education and women’s rights. And go, please take over ’cause I’m not gonna do it justice
Carolyn: It’s funny how life, you meander through life, and the things that you end up doing now are things that actually didn’t even exist when I was finishing university. Like I fi- I finished university in 1994, and I did [00:01:00] political science and history, but what I was taking was a lot of like sexual politics, women’s history, women’s politics, feminism, and things like that.
So that was always like a real interest. And then I ended up working in book publishing after I graduated for years and and, worked with some really great authors, really liked it, got really burnt out. And after I had my second son, I was like, “You know what? I just, I can’t go back and do this.
I need to do something. I wanna be home with the kids for a while, and I wanna do something on my own.” And so I just this is something that if I start an online shop, then I can stay home. It’s something that I can work for from home. And then along with all of that came getting certified as a sex educator, and I’m always, I’m always trying to learn more, be in conferences reading stuff all the time.
It’s– if you had told me in [00:02:00] 1994, as somebody who went through university on an electric typewriter, that I would be running a website and sometimes having to do code and learning how to do all these… And social media didn’t exist, right? E- when I was a publicist in publishing, there was no social media.
We were calling, editors on the phone and pitching. And now look at me. Here I am. Crazy.
Alonzo banx: That, that’s quite a lateral leap there, going from publishing into running an online adult shop. What was the thought process between, you woke up one morning and said, “Hey, I’ve got an idea”?
Carolyn: It wasn’t that wacky, it was something that I was interested in and, by the time I had had a couple of kids and had a bunch of girlfriends who were around the same age, I remember going to like the shops with them, like the, “Ooh, let’s go look at vibrators.”
And thinking to myself, “Geez I [00:03:00] don’t like these stores,” a lot of them. So when I was coming up with, things that I could do from my home and doing e-commerce, like it just made a lot of sense because I thought, I think there’s… people are being done a bit of a disservice the way a lot of this is marketed and a lot of the stigma, right?
Which played into a lot of the stuff that I had studied in university, you… It is, sexual pleasure is a feminist issue, right? It’s a queer rights issue. It’s just, it runs the gamut of human experience. And so it really wasn’t that crazy. Yeah, here I am. It’s been like 13 years.
Alonzo banx: Your primary site, your primary is Betty’s Toy Box, right?
Carolyn: Yeah.
Alonzo banx: one or was that a, did
When, so when did
Carolyn: No, that was the original. That was, like, almost 13 years ago, and I just remember thinking, some of these shops I’m seeing online and in person, I don’t like the way they [00:04:00] look. Like these skinny little people, and big muscly guys, and fake boobs, and s- sexuality thrown in your face, and it made people really uncomfortable who might have who might have been open to, experimenting and trying something and buying a toy.
But then you look at s- how they were marketed at the time and it was just so off-putting and I thought, I want to do something that would make me comfortable shopping.” And I remember thinking like okay,” coming up with a name and I’m like, “Oh, Betty Page,” and that just kinda got stuck in my head.
And, as you do, you go on and you’re like was that name available, like Betty’s Toy Box? Oh my gosh, it’s available! Okay there we go. And thinking, I’d rather have the idea of pin-up girls and a retro-looking kind of style because that’ll just be more, I think more comfortable for people and more approachable because it’s cheeky, but not tacky in your [00:05:00] face.
And then it just… Things went so fast. I was down at the beach with my son and a friend, and I remember looking over and seeing a food truck, and it had this amazing retro color scheme to it. And I was like that’s the colors I want.” And the name just happened, and it just like boom.
Everything kinda fell into place. I, I re- I didn’t know what I was getting into at the time. I have no regrets, though.
Alonzo banx: So looking back now, what do
Now that you didn’t see then? When you start a business, and we’ve all started them, you go, “Oh, this is what it’s gonna be.” But sometimes life throws us curves
Carolyn: I think that it took my life in a direction that I didn’t really think it was going to take it in. Even like a couple of years after I started the store, I got this email, and it was from a like a buyer’s retreat that one of the organizations holds in [00:06:00] Miami. And I’m looking at it and I’m like, “Did they email the right person?”
They were inviting me to go as a buyer, and I’m like, “What on earth? What is going on?” Because you’re working in this little bubble, right? And you don’t realize, like you s- you– people are buying things, and you hear from your customers, and that’s all really nice. But you forget that there’s this whole thing going on out there that you’ve done.
And then all of a sudden, I was starting getting, messages from people in the industry and asking me to come to things and meeting people on that side of things. And it just became bigger and just wonderful though, it’s a lot of work though. And I didn’t go into it thinking as a lot of people do when they go into e-commerce, especially in sex toys, “I’m gonna go into this, and I’m gonna make millions of dollars.”
I knew that wasn’t gonna happen. That’s not what I wanted to do. I wanted to run my own business. I didn’t have any illusions about, going into it [00:07:00] to, to be a millionaire. But I think when I was starting, a lot of people were going into it for that reason, thinking it was really quick money.
And, just learning the industry and how it works and over all these years I couldn’t even imagined it was gonna be like this.
Alonzo banx: Okay, so at some point you became an AASECT certified sex educator.
Carolyn: I did
Alonzo banx: did that come in? this pre
Carolyn: i,
Alonzo banx: or
Carolyn: so I actually only got, I became a certified sex educator a couple years ago, and I was humming and hawing because honestly, there are people who go to university and study these things, right? There are people who are therapists, they’re doctors who study sexuality, and I have so much respect for all those people, and I was always like, “Okay, like I know a lot, I’ve learned a lot, do, but do I want a certification?”
I think I do. It just, it means more to me, to be able to say that I put in all of these [00:08:00] hours and all of this studying really, on all these different topics to actually get that certification. And and a lot of the stuff I already knew, honestly. But it was just good to be like, “Okay, yeah I know what I’m doing here.”
I, and I did learn some new things as well, but for the most part, it was just like a really good all right, all this learning I’ve been doing I’ve learned a lot
Alonzo banx: Specializing in sexual politics and women’s history.
Carolyn: Yeah
Alonzo banx: So where did that come from?
Carolyn: Oh my gosh, university was a… I started off in English literature, which is probably why I ended up in book publishing. But it, we’re talking like 1990 here, right? It wasn’t as evolved as it is now. Now you can take so many different things in university, and I look at some of the courses that are offered, I’m like, oh.
It just makes you wanna go back, ’cause things were so broad at the time. And think about 1990, you’re still in the AIDS crisis, right? So even the courses that you were taking, it [00:09:00] would be, things about like the politics of the politics of what’s happening around the AIDS crisis. Queer rights, women’s rights.
Just it was… It’s gotten so much bigger and so much more expansive now. It was a little bit more basic then. And then women’s history because how we don’t learn about women’s history. And there’s just so much. You have to read between the lines, and that’s what’s really intriguing about it, ’cause it’s social history.
Unless you’re looking at, queens or, to know the history of what was happening with women on the ground at the time it’s a lot of reading between the lines, looking at what was happening in society as a whole to figure out what women’s part was in it. It’s just, I still find it really fascinating.
I’m such a history nerd, I love listening to history podcasts, watching history documentaries. Just love it
Alonzo banx: And you’re living it. At this, 30 years now on the front lines of watching this stuff change and,
Carolyn: Yeah.
Alonzo banx: being
Carolyn: Ugh
Alonzo banx: that makes it change. Part of [00:10:00] the, your bio is, shame-free sex education and
Carolyn: Yeah.
Alonzo banx: women. But it’s sites like yours that normalize the conversation that allow that to happen.
I’ve
That normalizing something does much more than activism, because when you
Carolyn: Yeah
Alonzo banx: let people talk about it, when you can make it something that’s conversational, breaks down some of the hysteria. But you’ve been in this now for a while. What, are we getting
Carolyn: Ooh, that’s a really hard question because, I am coming at this as the perspective of being Canadian. So our, what’s happening with us is very different than what’s happening with you guys. In a lot of ways, you’re taking a lot of steps backwards, and that I see as no, no, things are regressing in a lot of ways.
But I, I– the way… In places where I am finding that things are progressing, I love to see people, the age of my [00:11:00] boys who are like twenty-one and twenty-five, and, how much more open they are and how much they know and how much they wanna learn. On the other side of that, there’s the whole, manosphere thing, which is completely terrifying.
But but there are these young people who now have access to all this information, and they’re making sure that they get it, and I love that. And and this, and I’m finding that a lot of people my age, who are in their fifties or sixties are relearning the things that they thought they knew but didn’t really, ’cause none of us had proper sex education, right?
And that’s often one of the first things I’ll ask if I’m gonna do a talk, especially when it’s people my age. It’s like, “Okay, who had absolutely no or incredibly limited sex ed?” And every hand in the room goes up. And so in that way, I’m finding that, people who are our age, like a lot of women, are [00:12:00] doing their own kind of research on being in perimenopause and menopause and what that means.
Men are looking into, what’s going on with me with ED and as I’m getting older, what’s happening with my hormones. We have access to all this information now, which I think is great
Alonzo banx: Yeah. D- you just named two more times I’d love to have you on the podcast and talk to you about topics. But you brought up age, and
Carolyn: Yeah
Alonzo banx: Of a, a store that sells devices, the average age right now? Is it equally dispersed?
Carolyn: I’m finding that, for me specifically, because, I’m very much the face of the company, and I’m very much, in my in my 50s, I have gray hair, and I think that my brand resonates with people between 35 and up. And when I say up, I’m talking up and up into the 90s, one of my friends who is a toy reviewer and she’s a senior sex educator, she’s in her 80s now, [00:13:00] and, she’s just so amazing, and I learn so much from her. I do find, though, that overall, the industry like toys in general, are now running the gamut. I think it’s, young people in, as old as they can legally buy something are buying toys and finding that there’s nothing wrong with it, and I love that.
Especially now you can buy so many things online, right? It just, it takes away the stigma of having to walk into a store and being embarrassed and having to talk to the clerk and, those were big hindrances for a lot of people. So yeah, honestly, now I’m seeing, I think we’re going from 18 to infinity
Alonzo banx: Is it the same approach for the young as older people? Are you finding that you have to speak to and with them differently?
Carolyn: I think differently. Yeah. I think that, there are people who are my age who have used vibrators their entire [00:14:00] lives and, or they’ve had some kind of toy with their partner or solo and, they’re old pros, and so they wanna know what’s new and exciting. But then there are people who are, in their 50s who are trying something for the first time, and that’s a very different conversation.
And then people who are in… a lot younger, a lot of them seem to respond really well to… There’s a lot of cutesy toys out there now. And th-there’s– this is… There’s a huge market actually for these cute little toys that I think are really popular amongst kids who are in dorms because you can kinda hide it better, and it’s discreet.
Which I find that just really fascinating because cutesy toys began with rabbits that looked like rabbits, back in the ’60s and ’70s, and now we’ve come around again to now it’s roses and lemons and these kind of funny shapes. But yeah, y-younger people, it’s a different conversation, and they’re [00:15:00] so open.
I think that older people sometimes have to get over the embarrassment a little more in some ways.
Alonzo banx: You talk about some of the new toys. I was about to bring that up. Going back decades ago until when I was younger toys were crap, and they were,
Carolyn: yeah
Alonzo banx: The quality and the design What’s your
Carolyn: The in- it’s such an interesting evolution, the industry, the sex toy industry. Back, back in the day in the ’50s, ’60s, whatever, the, the sex toy industry was very closely linked with porn and peep shows, shops and, things like that. And still to this day, there’s actually no governing body over the sex toy industry that makes any kind of regulations surrounding materials or safety.
There’s like basic electronic safety. That’s electronics, though. Specific to toys, there’s nothing. We’re a self-re- regulated industry, and, that is surprising to a lot of [00:16:00] people. But then when you look at some of the really crappy stuff that was out in the ’60s, ’70s, ’80s, into the ’90s maybe not so surprising, right?
It was, what kind of material is cheap and effective? And, and the one thing that I really respect about this industry is when they know better, they do better. And so things have progressed. Silicone came onto the scene. That was a huge change in terms of the quality of material you can use.
Silicone doesn’t break down, it’s not stinky, it’s body safe, and it’s just amazing. And now even silicone is getting better and better. Y- yeah, what was happening 20, 30, even when I first came on, when I first came on the scene, actually, silicone was only just starting to really become, and now it’s more the standard, which is really great to see. But, people often talk about why isn’t there like a governing body? I don’t know how you would even do that because really it’s just, it’s a bunch of manufacturers [00:17:00] who are setting their own standards in their own factories.
And, and they really are doing I think, like a really great job.
I think probably the things are probably better quality than they used to be, ’cause people don’t expect things. I think that… and you’ll still see this actually in a lot of the packaging. “This product is for nove- novelty purposes only.” They’re not making health and… A lot of them aren’t making any health and wellness claims.
You can’t. That’s … And actually, there’s really not a ton yet of research in the use of toys and how how beneficial they are. That’s just an emerging field, right? So yeah, a lot of them are like, “Novelty purposes only,” because yeah, if you’re buying some of these things at Spencer’s, the materials, they might break in a couple of months.
But there are some really great manufacturers out there that are making things that are gonna last you a lifetime, honestly.
Alonzo banx: So I’m gonna shift the conversation a little. You’re on the front lines of this stuff, “How do I [00:18:00] bring up the subject? How do I talk to my lover and say, ‘Hey you wanna try some…?'” How do you do that? How– What’s the good starting point?
Carolyn: Honestly, I think that you need to say, “Hey, I saw this thing. I thought it might be really fun.” The way not to do it is, if you’ve been having some problems or you’re in some kind of, situation where it’s like, “You know what? I think that we kinda really need this.” But if you kinda broach it like, “You know what?
I saw this thing. I was on Instagram, and they had this like thing that I saw, and I think it might be really fun. Do you wanna give it a try?” I think one… The, the big thing that you always hear is that men are afraid that they’re gonna be replaced by a vibrator, and I just, I think that’s…
a vibrator can’t give you a hug, right? A vibrator is not warm, and these things are tools. They’re just tools. They’re just a fun [00:19:00] addition, and then, sometimes they do become a more necessary tool in a way, and that’s a whole other conversation that a lot of people don’t know that side of things.
But just be fun. Just kinda slide it into the conversation and see what they say. And if they say, “Oh my God, absolutely not. I would never wanna do that.” “Oh, why? I thought that we might have some fun together. Like I hear that this can do XYZ for you. Like maybe it can give you a, a blended orgasm or maybe this can make you last longer or…”
Something like that. And then if they say, “No, absolutely not,” with a toy you could always say what about maybe a little bit of a, a stimulation cream or something like that?” Those are sometimes like a gateway too, right? “Here, the… If you use a little bit of this it gives you the tingles.
Wouldn’t that be fun?” See how that goes.
Alonzo banx: toy? I wanna stick my toes in the water. Don’t wanna jump in, all the way
Carolyn: It depends on what you want it [00:20:00] for. I always say if you’re a couple, so but a male-female couple I actually really a nice vibrating ring because it’s not super intrusive, and it actually, I think you realize when you use it, a lot of them aren’t too constricting for him.
But what they do is the– so the– they would have a ring that would go around the penis, and then often they’ll have some kind of vibrating bulb or shape or something on it. And so you’re putting that so that when you’re with your partner, that is going to hit their clitoris. And for me, that just seems like a no-brainer ’cause it’s not super intrusive, but it’s also helping a woman with something that they can often have problems with, which is orgasming during penetration.
This is just adding that stimulation there, where she’s all of a sudden gonna be like, “Oh, hi.” And he’s getting that [00:21:00] vibration as well. And you can take it off, you can slip the ring over your fingers, and you can use it as a finger vibrator. You can use it solo, turn it around, have it against your testicles.
There’s just so many uses, and you can… They don’t have to be super expensive either. That’s another thing I really will tell people is, if you’re starting out, you don’t have to, unless you want to, go for that super expensive product. You can think about the sensation that you wanna achieve, get something that’s a little more budget, and see if you like it.
And then if you really dig it, you might be like, “Okay, now I want a little bit more.” And then maybe you wanna get something that’s a little more powerful or a little more expensive or has another bell, whistle, something like that. But you don’t really have to spend a fortune to get started.
Alonzo banx: Is there any place to get educated? If you’re sitting there and say, “How do I use this? How…” Let’s be honest. You got a little donut with a ball hanging off the end and an [00:22:00] electrical cord, and you’re looking at it from the outside going,
Carolyn: Yeah.
Alonzo banx: “Is this the top or the bottom?”
Carolyn: I know. Yeah. I spend a lot of time doing videos, honestly. That was always a big component, right? I have always taken a step back and reminded myself that people don’t know how this works. I’ve been looking at these things for over a decade, but, people don’t know how this works.
How does a basic ring work? Why is it a good idea? So spend a lot of time on our blog writing things, and a lot of time doing educational videos. We did have a YouTube channel for a very long time, and that got taken down because of censorship. So it’s hard because you can’t you can’t say a lot of things on Instagram or TikTok at all.
They’re very… they censor very, TikTok in particular, they censor very strongly. So I [00:23:00] find now that the best place to get education is I’m gonna do it myself. I’m gonna have it on my own website. So you can always check our blog
Alonzo banx: In the notes of this, we’ll have all the links and everything to your site, so everyone will be able to
Carolyn: Sure
Alonzo banx: and then and trace you down. Because I think that’s super important. We talk about a world where there’s not basic sex education,
From that perspective, you’re talking about a master’s class. You’re talking about
Carolyn: yeah
Alonzo banx: how to use the toys when people are trying to figure out how to use the bodies
Carolyn: Exactly. Exactly, right? And toys can be such a great complement to the body, especially as we get older. There’s… They can be so useful as we age, and people… I think there’s a big gap in education there with people realizing that there are so many solutions for the problems that you encounter if you just know where to look, right?
Alonzo banx: I’m gonna put you on the spot for the entire sex device industry, ’cause as a male, there is a [00:24:00] extreme disparity between the numbers of devices that are female-based and male-based. Now, that’s changed a lot in the last probably five to 10 years, but
Carolyn: Yeah
Alonzo banx: yeah, that was not the case.
How do you think that’s gonna change?
Or is it pretty much gonna stay at the balance it is now?
Carolyn: No, it’s changing. I’ve seen a lot of changes. It used to be that basically there were those strokers, those like squishy kind of fleshy looking things that had a vaginal opening or whatever, and,
Alonzo banx: flashlight
Carolyn: things like that. Fleshlight was innovative at the time. It used to be they just had those squishy sleeves, and then Fleshlight were like, “Oh, we’re gonna put it in this canister that makes it more of an experience.”
Some of them vibrate, that kinda thing. But no, I’m finding that over the last 10 years in particular, there’s been a lot of innovation. There are strokers now that you really don’t even need an erection to use. They can be based on vibration. Some of them have a vibration plate, so they’re almost [00:25:00] like a open tunnel.
Open at the top with a vibration plate in the bottom, and that vibration plate is meant to stimulate the penis whether it’s erect or not. So things like that are so innovative. Womanizer, h- their branch of their company that does male toys, they’re using their air pulsation technology, which is, it basically pushes out air to stimulate, and they’ve been experimenting with using that for male toys as well.
I think, too, there’s a lot of assumption that men don’t spend the money on toys the way that women do. I think women are more prone to look for something new to try and find a new sensation, whereas a lot of men are just really happy with their hands , and I don’t think that’s untrue, but I think there’s more and more guys out there now who are like, “Oh, new [00:26:00] technology.
Okay, let’s try this out.” And even like linking with AI, right?
Alonzo banx: When are we
Carolyn: or-
Alonzo banx: AI sex robots? That’s the big question
Carolyn: They’re already here. Seriously.
Alonzo banx: about this one, but okay
Carolyn: It’s funny, I go to some of these shows, and you’ll see some of the new innovative stuff, and I’m like, “Oh my God.” It used to be that they’d have those big dolls, but now the dolls do things, right? They can move, they can twerk, they can…
Their canals will constrict. I just– It’s a whole thing. And now a big thing too is, they’ve already had devices that hook up to webcam performers. Those have been around for a little while. So you can log in to your favorite webcam person through an app and then control what her toys are doing, and sometimes they can be responsive back and forth.
The technology is crazy. And now they are starting to do that with AI. So you buy a [00:27:00] stroker, and you you go to a site or scan a QR code, and it’ll have you interacting with an AI model. So we’re there
Alonzo banx: There has never been a new technology that we have not figured out how to turn to something sexual. I think, that, I think
Carolyn: Absolutely.
Alonzo banx: existed in the beginning.
Carolyn: It’s so true. It’s so true
Alonzo banx: So what’s the future for you? What are you working on? What you got going?
Carolyn: You know what? I’m doing a lot more speaking and educating. Honestly, I just, I love it so much. There is a dedicated menopause show in Toronto every fall, and this is the second year I’m gonna speak at it, and it’s just, it’s so much fun. We have a booth and we have, we bring our vibrators to the menopause show, and you spend the entire weekend having these fantastic conversations with people in your booth.
And so I think, that [00:28:00] is where my heart is right now. And I bring everything I learn back to the store. It kinda goes back and forth. I learn about all these new things because of the store, and then I bring it to my customers and then they teach me things, and the people I’m speaking to, they teach me things that I bring back, and then I tell the manufacturers because I see them all the time, right?
I go to trade shows all the time. I know the people who make these toys. And so it’s, bringing back things, being asked questions about what I like, what I don’t like what could be a new innovation. That’s … I just love it
Alonzo banx: Have you gone down that path yet of making your own device or coming up with the perfect idea that the industry hasn’t seen yet?
Carolyn: Oh, there is so much involved. So much involved, it’s more than you would think, and I… It’s funny, sometimes I’ll think, “Oh, I just wish this did that,” and then [00:29:00] the new incarnation’ll come out of whatever, and it will have that function. So far the industry’s doing a decent job at keeping up with me, I think.
But who knows? Who knows in the future, right?
Alonzo banx: So what is it that people should know that they don’t? What do you find is the topic? And I know I just threw you a curve there ’cause we’ll be k- talk- talking about menopause, we could talk about sex toys, we can talk about a lot of things.
Carolyn: That’s okay
Alonzo banx: what do you find in your area of expertise is the thing that you’re explaining to people the most often that they just don’t understand?
Carolyn: How their bodies work. Honestly, on a very basic level. I’ve seen everything from, the old joke about men not knowing where the clitoris is, sure, fine. But I, even some women don’t know that they have two holes. Right? Three counting, your butt. And then it just goes on from there, right? It’s like people don’t know how to sometimes do things safely. They don’t know how to [00:30:00] best use products in a safe way. They don’t know why their body is working the way it is, why it’s responding the way it is, why why the things they saw in porn aren’t working for them when they try and recreate them.
Porn has a lot to answer for.
Alonzo banx: It
Carolyn: But yeah,
Alonzo banx: unrealistic expectations.
Carolyn: oh my gosh. Oh my gosh
Alonzo banx: of poly, everyone believes that we’re porn stars every day, and that’s the world we live in. You’re like, “Yeah, no.”
Carolyn: People think that when you work in the sex toy industry, that’s all you ever do is try out toys all day long. I’m like, “I’d never get any work done. Are you kidding?”
Alonzo banx: All
Carolyn: That’s not how this works. But yeah, honestly if you were g- like, on a big, grand scale, people don’t know how their bodies work, why they respond the way they do, why things happen the way they do, why hormones fluctuate with time, how things go as you get older.
It’s [00:31:00] just this complete, on a lot of levels, lack of basic knowledge that sometimes I just remind myself that’s the starting point, and you just, you go from there and hope for the best.
Alonzo banx: Okay, so Carolyn, there are people listening to this podcast right now who are like, “I love what you have to say.” They wanna hear more about you and from you and suck up some of that, that knowledge you have. How do they do that?
Carolyn: You can always, I am all over the website, which is bettystoybox.com. I write all the blogs. I do a lot of the videos for information, but I also do a lot of stuff on Instagram under my own name. So you can, it’s just carolyneagle on Instagram, because I do whatever I can get away with without getting censored.
So I have, I’ll talk about how to do booty play safely and, you have to use all these code words, and you can’t really show full toys a lot of the time. [00:32:00] But I do my best, and I try and get a lot of information out there as well, so you can always follow me there
Alonzo banx: But on Betty’s Toy Box they can get the full videos. If they go there, they can
Carolyn: Oh, yeah.
Alonzo banx: thing and
Carolyn: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No censorship there
Alonzo banx: We will make sure to add all of those links into thing. Is there anything we didn’t talk about tonight? Although quite honest to you, I think I could go for another hour or two on some of the little side subjects we went off on
Carolyn: Yeah, honestly. There’s… No. If there’s anything you wanna know, if anybody has questions, they can feel free to always contact you. Let, what do they wanna know? But it’s… I could go on too. This is just such a fascinating industry. I love what I do, and I could talk about it for hours and hours
Alonzo banx: But the fact that you love what you do comes across very clearly.
Carolyn: Thank you
Alonzo banx: Thank you for being on with us tonight. Absolute pleasure, and I know we’ve got you coming up at a round table this weekend, so you’ll get to meet a [00:33:00] bunch of the crew and have that conversation. I know they’re just
Carolyn: Yeah.
Alonzo banx: talking to you
Carolyn: This’ll be fun
Alonzo banx: Thank you so much for being on tonight
Carolyn: Thank you
Alonzo banx: I am Alonzo Banks.
We’re here tonight with Carolyn Eagle, and this has been the Polischocal Podcast. Good night, everyone